Marx v. General Revenue – SCOTUS Oral Argument Transcript

I have today’s transcript from oral argument before the Supreme Court in Marx v. General Revenue.

Ms. Marx lost her Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (“FDCPA”) case against General Revenue. Under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 54(d), which permits the court’s clerk to tax costs to a prevailing party, the trial court taxed her with General Revenue’s defense costs — not attorneys fees, just costs, and limited ones at that. Marx appealed to the Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals and argued she should not have to pay these costs because the FDCPA, at section 1692k(a)(3), only exposes her to costs if she brought the suit in “bad faith and the the purpose of harassment.” She lost that appeal and was able to get her case heard by the Supreme Court.

Here are some of the Justices’ quotes from today’s transcript:

Justice Ginsburg had a nice take on the issue:

[B]ut the statute can be read to say, “[Congress is] describing one category of case. We are describing the worst case; the bad-faith harassing plaintiff,” and the statute deals with that category of person and no other. So if you’re not a bad-faith harassing plaintiff, but you nonetheless lost, then you’re under 54(d).

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Congress gave defendants something more here. Why — why would — why should it be that 54(d) would apply to the lender under the Truth in Lending Act but not to the lender under this act?

Justice Sotomayor:

I think your — your answer is always that Rule 54 obligates court to give costs. And this rule, as you read it, is a permissive grant only. Even in bad faith litigations, a court could choose not to give costs.

Justice Breyer:

But perhaps I’m unique in this, but I don’t just look at the language, I look at the context, I look at the purpose, and — and I don’t see anything in the language that gets rid of the background rule [54(d)], and I don’t see anything in the purpose that gets rid of the background rule, and I don’t see anything in the history that gets rid of the background rule.

Justice Kagan, noting that Rule 54(d)(1) cannot be used to tax costs if a statute can be read to “provide otherwise”:

Ms. Blatt, it — it seems to me that the — the most natural way to read this statute, [is] not [General Revenue's] way . .

. . .All I’m trying to figure out is whether this Federal statute provides otherwise, and this Federal statute does provide otherwise.

It is quite an interesting read, but I’m not sure how much it reveals as to what SCOTUS may ultimately decide. I filed the amicus for the National Association of Retail Collection Attorneys’ Amicus committee in September. You can read that here.

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Donald Maurice is President of Maurice & Needleman, P.C., whose attorneys specialize in all areas of creditors’ rights and financial services litigation. In 23 years of practice, Don has successfully litigated for the financial services industry in both State and Federal courts. He has provided defense for claims brought under the Truth in Lending Act, Equal Credit Opportunity Act, FDCPA, Fair Credit Reporting Act, New Jersey Consumer Fraud Act, Magnuson-Moss Act and other state consumer lending regulations. Don is peer-rated AV by Martindale-Hubbell, the worldwide guide to lawyers. He has been recognized by Law & Politics Magazine as a New Jersey Super Lawyer, a Business Super Lawyer and a Corporate Counsel Super Lawyer. His firm has been named a “Go-to Law Firm for the Top 500 Companies,” and a “Go-to Financial Law Firm” by Corporate Counsel. In addition to being a frequent speaker and author on consumer financial services litigation, Don serves as vice chair of the Debt Collection Practices and Bankruptcy Subcommittee within the Consumer Financial Services Committee, Business Law Section of the ABA. *CV, BV and AV are registered certification marks of Reed Elsevier Properties Inc., used in accordance with the Martindale-Hubbell certification procedures, standards and policies. No aspect of this advertisement has been approved by the Supreme Court of New Jersey. “Super Lawyers” is a publication of Thomson-Reuters.
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